Many men talk like Donald Trump in private —
and only other men
can stop them
Shaun R. Harper, Special to The Washington Post
I
know Donald Trump. Though we have never met, I know him well.
At
several moments throughout the campaign, I have felt that something about Trump
was disturbingly familiar, but I couldn’t quite pinpoint it. After seeing the
video of this presidential candidate and married man talking about kissing
women, grabbing their vaginas and using his celebrity to get them to do
whatever he wants, I now fully recognize the guy I have known since I was a
teenage boy. The Trump on that video is a sexist, misogynistic, womanizing
cheater who degrades and sometimes sexually assaults women. I know this man and
so many like him. I wish I didn’t, yet I do, and I have for a long time.
Truth
is, many men objectify women and say outrageously offensive things about their
breasts, butts and other body parts in spaces we occupy with each other. In his
response to the video’s release, Trump explained that his comments were “locker
room banter.” His is a “boys will be boys” defense of sexism and the
objectification of women, but he wasn’t incorrect that some men do, indeed,
talk that way. And such talk is not confined to gyms and country club showers,
but occurs too often in other spaces where men are among other men — in
fraternity houses, on golf courses, in barbershops, at bars. I have even seen
men stand aside and engage in this kind of talk about moms at kids’ birthday
parties. Unfortunately, the kinds of words we heard from Trump are commonly
spoken when men are with other men. Those who participate in this “banter” are
rewarded. Those who choose not to engage, and especially guys who critique such
statements, have their masculinities questioned and risk being placed on the
outskirts of social acceptance.
I
have spent much of my career studying men and their masculinities. My research
has put me in conversation with thousands of young men, mostly high school and
college students. Many have told me that they learned to be Trumps in middle
school, sometimes earlier. Media, parents, family members and peers shape how
boys are taught to think and talk about women from a young age. While I am quite
older than they are, I still understand and relate to what my research
participants tell me. The horrifying things Trump said in that video are
comments I’ve heard from male friends of mine since I was a teenager. As a
young boy, I witnessed older men appraise women’s bodies and heard them say
what they would do sexually (for example, “Look at the ass on that one” and “I
would bang her all night long”). Truth is, I have known Trumps most of my life.
Despite
their familiarity, the words I heard Trump speak in that video horrified me.
Most disturbing was this: “You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful —
I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.
And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by
the p—y.”
Kissing
or groping someone without consent is sexual assault. It’s popular for men to
brag about similar behaviors. Young men I have interviewed say their male
buddies often affirm and applaud such statements. RARELY does one man hold
another accountable or raise his consciousness about the vile acts he’s
describing. Details of sexual conquests — even unsuccessful attempts like Trump
taking a married woman furniture shopping in hopes of having sex with her — are
typically celebrated. And because bragging of this kind is common, men in my
research confess that they don’t always recognize that they and their peers
talk about women in deplorable ways. Hiding it behind the guise of “banter” or
jokes only makes the problem worse by making it seemingly acceptable. It is
unacceptable.
When
men fail to challenge other men on troubling things they say about and do to
women, we contribute to cultures that excuse sexual harassment, assault and
other forms of gender violence. I know from my research that confronting male
peers is difficult for a 14-year-old high school student-athlete who
desperately wants his teammates to like and accept him. He needs his coach to
step up and disrupt locker room banter. Perhaps Trump, who was 59 when the
video was recorded, and Billy Bush, whose comments were also awful, never had a
coach or anyone else confront their sexism. College men need opportunities in
their classes and elsewhere on campus to see women differently, develop more
progressive perspectives about women’s roles and worth in our society and undo
ways they have been socialized to view and talk about women. Young men — not
just those who spend time in locker rooms — need their dads, uncles, male
teachers, ministers, rabbis and other adult men in their lives to teach them
how to appreciate and talk about women.
But
too many adult men fall short of this ourselves, especially when we are in
“men’s only” spaces with guys whom we need to affirm our masculinities.
I
am fairly certain that hearing the vulgar words Trump spoke over a decade ago
will compel many more women to vote against him next month. Electing the first
female president will not end sexism, though, any more than electing Barack
Obama ended racism. To make progress, men need to do more than vote against
Trump. We must stand up to him and call out others who say things similar to
what we heard him say on the video. We have to stop excusing the disgusting
degradation of girls and women as “locker room banter.” Feminists and
courageous others have done much to contest exchanges like the one between
Trump and Bush. But it takes men like me to hold our friends accountable for
things they say and do to objectify women. We must challenge their values,
language and actions.
I
have known Trumps far too long — they are my friends, my fraternity brothers
and so many other men with whom I routinely interact. I understand now, more
than ever before, that letting them talk this way about women makes me just as
sexist. By excusing their words and actions, I share some responsibility for
rape, marital infidelity and other awful things that men do. I want other men
to recognize this, too — not only because they have mothers, wives, sisters,
aunts or daughters — but because sexism hurts all women and men in our society.
Shaun R. Harper is a University
of Pennsylvania professor and executive director of the Center for the Study of
Race and Equity in Education. He is a co-editor of “College Men and
Masculinities.”
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Listening to golf banter taught us teenage caddies that it's OK to objectify women
by Robert Jensen / Dallas Morning News / 27 January 2017
Sometimes, sort of by accident, Donald Trump says something insightful. Or, more accurately, he says something we can analyze to gain deeper understanding of the culture's pathology.
In other writing, I have observed that by his own admission Trump is at the very least an aggressive sexual predator, and we don’t typically look to such men for insight into the nature of men’s sexual violence against women. But after the historic Women’s March, when I re-read accounts of Trumps infamous “grab them by the pussy” comment, I was struck by an inadvertent insight in his response, which was rarely brought up during the campaign.
Let’s remember his statement when the tape was released: “This was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course -- not even close. I apologize if anyone was offended.”
The coercive sexual activity he was describing can’t be dismissed as mere banter, of course, but Trump was accurately describing how men often talk when they are in all-male spaces, most notably in locker rooms. But his mention of playing golf with Bill Clinton brought back memories of one of my early lessons in this male-dominant dynamic when I was a caddy at a small-town country club in Fargo, ND, in the early 1970s.
In those days, the club reserved prime playing time for men only, and I spent many summer mornings carrying a bag in an all-male foursome. We teenage caddies, like most servants, were invisible to the people we served. The men talked as if we weren’t there, and I learned a lot about how the world really works.
The golfers we caddied for were mostly businessmen and professionals--owners and managers, lawyers and doctors--men I would have looked up to as the leaders who ran the city. So, the crude nature of their sexual conversations was confusing. I had heard other boys talk like that (as a small, effeminate boy, I was too terrified of all things sexual to join in), but I had always assumed adults were different; after all, they chastised kids if they heard us talking that way.
That first summer I spent at the course, I learned there were few differences between men and boys in their approach to sex. Most of the golfers’ conversations were about sports and business, but some of the men commented about women’s bodies and spoke about what they imagined doing sexually with specific women. Not every golfer talked that way, of course, but I noticed that men who avoided the banter didn’t ask the crude-talking guys to stop.
Though I couldn’t have articulated it then, the lesson I was learning was clear: It’s acceptable to treat women as objectified bodies for male pleasure. If you enjoy that kind of thing, go for it. If it’s not your style, that’s ok, but don’t get in the way of other men.
I have no idea what Bill Clinton might have said to Donald Trump on the course, though Clinton said in a 2012 interview, “I like him, and I love playing golf with him.” But my focus is not on these individuals, but on men’s behavior and boys’ socialization. The problem is not simply a few overly aggressive men, but a system of institutionalized male dominance, what traditionally we have called patriarchy. That dominance has long been built on men’s control of women's reproduction and sexuality.
There’s an ongoing struggle, primarily between feminists and conservatives, about women’s reproductive freedom. Feminists’ struggle with liberals is more often about men’s claims to sexual access to women’s bodies. In that sense, both Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are sex liberals, those who use the slogan of “sexual liberation” to try to justify their abusive behavior.
The final insight comes from Trump’s failed attempt at being a human being: “I apologize if anyone was offended.” Beyond the classic accountability-avoidance of “if,” suggesting that only the hyper-sensitive would be concerned, he doesn’t grasp that it’s not primarily about offensive language but oppressive behavior. Men’s violence and sexual exploitation of women isn’t a problem because of harsh language, but because of abusive behavior that constrains women’s movements and options.
A feminist critique of patriarchy helps explain not only the behavior of the most powerful men in our society, or the most powerful men in Fargo, but also gives all of us a framework for challenging the corrosive culture in which men’s banter expresses men’s dominance.
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Robert Jensen is a professor in the School of Journalism at the University of Texas at Austin. This essay is drawn from his book The End of Patriarchy: Radical Feminism for Men, published in January 2017 by Spinifex Press. He can be reached at rjensen@austin.utexas.edu or through his website, http://robertwjensen.org/.
by Robert Jensen / Dallas Morning News / 27 January 2017
Sometimes, sort of by accident, Donald Trump says something insightful. Or, more accurately, he says something we can analyze to gain deeper understanding of the culture's pathology.
In other writing, I have observed that by his own admission Trump is at the very least an aggressive sexual predator, and we don’t typically look to such men for insight into the nature of men’s sexual violence against women. But after the historic Women’s March, when I re-read accounts of Trumps infamous “grab them by the pussy” comment, I was struck by an inadvertent insight in his response, which was rarely brought up during the campaign.
Let’s remember his statement when the tape was released: “This was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course -- not even close. I apologize if anyone was offended.”
The coercive sexual activity he was describing can’t be dismissed as mere banter, of course, but Trump was accurately describing how men often talk when they are in all-male spaces, most notably in locker rooms. But his mention of playing golf with Bill Clinton brought back memories of one of my early lessons in this male-dominant dynamic when I was a caddy at a small-town country club in Fargo, ND, in the early 1970s.
In those days, the club reserved prime playing time for men only, and I spent many summer mornings carrying a bag in an all-male foursome. We teenage caddies, like most servants, were invisible to the people we served. The men talked as if we weren’t there, and I learned a lot about how the world really works.
The golfers we caddied for were mostly businessmen and professionals--owners and managers, lawyers and doctors--men I would have looked up to as the leaders who ran the city. So, the crude nature of their sexual conversations was confusing. I had heard other boys talk like that (as a small, effeminate boy, I was too terrified of all things sexual to join in), but I had always assumed adults were different; after all, they chastised kids if they heard us talking that way.
That first summer I spent at the course, I learned there were few differences between men and boys in their approach to sex. Most of the golfers’ conversations were about sports and business, but some of the men commented about women’s bodies and spoke about what they imagined doing sexually with specific women. Not every golfer talked that way, of course, but I noticed that men who avoided the banter didn’t ask the crude-talking guys to stop.
Though I couldn’t have articulated it then, the lesson I was learning was clear: It’s acceptable to treat women as objectified bodies for male pleasure. If you enjoy that kind of thing, go for it. If it’s not your style, that’s ok, but don’t get in the way of other men.
I have no idea what Bill Clinton might have said to Donald Trump on the course, though Clinton said in a 2012 interview, “I like him, and I love playing golf with him.” But my focus is not on these individuals, but on men’s behavior and boys’ socialization. The problem is not simply a few overly aggressive men, but a system of institutionalized male dominance, what traditionally we have called patriarchy. That dominance has long been built on men’s control of women's reproduction and sexuality.
There’s an ongoing struggle, primarily between feminists and conservatives, about women’s reproductive freedom. Feminists’ struggle with liberals is more often about men’s claims to sexual access to women’s bodies. In that sense, both Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are sex liberals, those who use the slogan of “sexual liberation” to try to justify their abusive behavior.
The final insight comes from Trump’s failed attempt at being a human being: “I apologize if anyone was offended.” Beyond the classic accountability-avoidance of “if,” suggesting that only the hyper-sensitive would be concerned, he doesn’t grasp that it’s not primarily about offensive language but oppressive behavior. Men’s violence and sexual exploitation of women isn’t a problem because of harsh language, but because of abusive behavior that constrains women’s movements and options.
A feminist critique of patriarchy helps explain not only the behavior of the most powerful men in our society, or the most powerful men in Fargo, but also gives all of us a framework for challenging the corrosive culture in which men’s banter expresses men’s dominance.
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Robert Jensen is a professor in the School of Journalism at the University of Texas at Austin. This essay is drawn from his book The End of Patriarchy: Radical Feminism for Men, published in January 2017 by Spinifex Press. He can be reached at rjensen@austin.utexas.edu or through his website, http://robertwjensen.org/.
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